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Anyone have experience with blacked out FOI docs?

I was glancing at the "Pre-September 11, 2001 Trading Review" today and noticed that the part explaining the newsletter's motivation was omitted.

In practice, for what reasons do things end up omitted from FOI documents?

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dobó istván
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@fluffy @p Redactions are made when information within a document is exempt from the scope of FOIA.

There are nine broad exemptions.

1. Classified information.
2. Information about Internal personnel rules and practices of the agency.
3. Information blocked from disclosure by another law.
4. Trade secrets or commercial or financial information that is confidential.
5. Privileged communications within or between agencies.
6. Information that would invade a private citizen’s privacy.
7. Information for law enforcement purposes that could fuck up legal proceedings, constitute an invasion of privacy, reveal a confidential source, reveal techniques or practices of law enforcement, or put someone in danger.
8. ANY information about the supervision of financial institutions.
9. Geological information about wells.

Anything they can tie to one of these they can strike out.
Himbo Techbro

@istvan @fluffy @p #7 realistically lets them strike out literally anything they want about any criminal case, period.

pistolero
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@r000t @istvan @fluffy "Catch-22 says that we don't have to tell you what Catch-22 says."
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@p @istvan @r000t
>Often it's just names, sometimes it's to cover up projects that they don't want people to know about, and sometimes it's shady shit.
my interest in this document stems from a whistleblower who pointed out a high incidence of short trades against trump's Truth Media over the last week or so, as well as large positions made trading against him winning the election in betting markets[1].

There is a parallel with the 9/11 trading investigation. Their explanations for the trading are sensible enough[2]. Relevant excerpts attached.
However, the part related to the mailing list's explanations is entirely redacted.

I am fiercely curious about what on earth could possibly end up redacted from some mailing list with 50 subscribers when the entire text related to billion dollar hedge funds is left unmolested.

1. I have not confirmed that those trades were made on my own, or investigated the truth of this matter in any depth
2. a 5B hedge fund trading 2000 shares as part of a strategy to move hundreds of thousands is business as usual
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@fluffy @istvan @r000t Looks like it was physically blacked out and then scanned.

> We have not developed any evidence suggesting that those who had advance knowledge of the September 11 attacks traded on the basis of that information.

> those who had advance knowledge of the September 11 attacks

> those who had advance knowledge of the September 11 attacks

> those who had advance knowledge of the September 11 attacks

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yeah that peculiar choice of words stood out to me as well

i don't want to get too caught up in semantics but... what exactly did they mean by this?
pistolero
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@fluffy @istvan @r000t Yeah, that's also repeated, like that's the last paragraph on the first page, but it's not a slip, because they use similar wording in the first paragraph.
Terry Hendrix II 🏹
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You guys talking about people shorting DJT before the shooting?

pistolero
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@thendrix @fluffy @r000t @istvan Maybe. Who's askin'?
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@p @thendrix @istvan @r000t sports betting is illegal in the usa. guy is basically asking you if you want to admit to a crime
pistolero
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@fluffy @r000t @istvan @thendrix Actually not illegal nationally; the various leagues do forbid it and sometimes there are state laws forbidding i.
pistolero
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@fluffy @istvan @r000t @thendrix

> About the DJT trades. The whistle blower mentioned these documents from the 9/11 investigation as a sort of precedent to this behavior.

I've heard nothing about this. (I did hear Alex Jones sing a line from a Misfits song.)

> you wouldn't believe how many people parrot gossip as if it's credible and then expect you to believe them on other topics.

Yes, I would. I've been on fedi for a while.

> He claimed the investigation showed the newsletter existed, which it did, and that it miraculously tipped off investors.

> About the DJT betting. I would be cautious of anyone who points to betting against trump as some sort of unusual behavior. DJT to win is at an all time high, and it is completely ordinary to sell high and buy low.

Right, yeah.
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Terry Hendrix II 🏹
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I mentioned the DJT shorts, because they had more shorts in dollar terms over that period than the entire lifetime of the stock. It should be looked into for that alone.

pistolero
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@thendrix @fluffy @r000t @istvan Yeah, absolutely.
SilverDeth
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@p @thendrix @fluffy @istvan @r000t Wheels within wheels.
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@p @istvan @r000t @thendrix on the topic of 9/11 investigations. how legitimate were the investigations?
pistolero
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@fluffy @istvan @r000t @thendrix I had just assumed they were undertaken with an agenda; I never looked into it.
Terry Hendrix II 🏹
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Oh, I thought it was a related thread. Just something people have been talking about. It's interesting to find out who made those shorts.

pistolero
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@fluffy @r000t @istvan @thendrix Please do share the thoughts.
Terry Hendrix II 🏹
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I'm fixing an Ubuntu box that has a broken systemd... during a thunderstorm... so I likely won't be too chatty today.

pistolero
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@thendrix @fluffy @r000t @istvan

> a broken systemd...

The...fuck it, you know what I'm going to say.
Terry Hendrix II 🏹
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It also had removed perl when the package system uses perl and some other fun stuff like that. Fully working right now. I'm posting from it. I'm not a fan of systemd, but it helps to know how to fix it. :3