@d4klutz I sincerely think they wouldn't be taking this measure if Gab's app wasn't already removed from both app stores *and* it wasn't explicitly stated that use of these apps was a motivator in Gab moving to Mastodon's code.
Like most stupid things businesses in America do, this is 100% a risk calculation. Do nothing, and risk having to go back and forth with Google/Apple's abuse team for weeks, for a personal FOSS project.
@r000t the problem isnt just gab. If gab offends a person, that person can block it. Ignore it. That is what I do with all the sites that I don't like. I self censor. I don't need, nor want anyone doing it for me. What it really comes down to is that there is no stopping censorship when it start. Everyone is so offended by everything. It is more a cultural problem. However, Devs don't help by encouraging it. There are other, better ways to deal with things people don't like.
@r000t also, just FYI, I have no knowledge of gab or its contents.. just hearsay... they have the right to express themselves by word, as do all poeple.
@d4klutz The long story short is: Gab had so much of a problem with not handling real actual abuse (real actual death threats, real actual calls to violence, etc.) that its mobile app was removed from Google Play and the App Store.
Part of Gab's announcement to moving to Mastodon was "Now Google can't ban us because there's Mastodon apps. Checkm9"
@d4klutz So the problem we got here is, every one of those app developers is trying to *not* get hit with the first half of Gab's prognostication, see pic related.
@r000t I understand that.. but, this isnt just about gab.. it is about the consequences of actions. Where does it stop? Gab will not be the last site by any means if the censorship goes through. Where is the line to be drawn?. I am not defending Gab´s content, just the right of people to be free to make their own decisions.
@d4klutz I think I need to straight up write a blog post about this.
For me personally, if I had a Mastodon app, I'd be handing a cleansed version to Apple/Google. Their road, their rules.
I'd then turn around and put the "raw" version on my website and F-Droid.
I think everyone's missing the point here: Yes, free speech is important, but Google and Apple have theirs, and apps that interact with Gab will *probably* get ToS'd. Then nobody can use them. That's a loss for everyone.
Basically, I think everyone's mad at people who make Mastodon apps, when they should be mad at Google and Apple.
Yes, I'm sure some of the app developers are making a political statement. But others are simply trying to keep their software available.
A silly domain for test deploys, now has a mastodon instance. A place for memes as shitty as the name. Zero bullshit tolerated.